Police knees neck, twice again, but then this happens..

https://mobile.twitter.com/mattmillsphoto/status/1266960081389629440

As I prepare comments on the murder of George Floyd from the perspective of a police chaplain, I see this video. A longer video shows the same officer doing this to two different people. Your thoughts about this, please, given that it’s now a week after George’s death…

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10 responses to “Police knees neck, twice again, but then this happens..

  1. Chad

    No matter how tragic something like the murder of George Floyd is, you absolutely cannot have civilians dictating every action that law enforcement takes. That looked like a clean takedown to me. They were bringing a resisting subject into custody. That’s not always pretty and we can’t take away the ability of law enforcement to assist people to the ground. Yes this officers knee was on the guys neck and if there is video of him doing it to two more people, that should probably be investigated and maybe it’s as simple as re training that officer, or maybe worse and he’s paying tribute to the murderer. I noticed after they got the offender to his feet, the protester that was yelling about the knee on the neck, started yelling “get your knee off of him” to an officer with a knee on an offenders back, totally clean. I think the one yelling just doesn’t want law enforcement out enforcing the law. Also, the officer in questions partner did physically move the officers knee off of the offenders neck. It’s hard for me to tell from the videos, but it’s very important to protect the ability of law enforcement to enforce the law, including using physical force. Just my two cents.

    • Father George David Byers

      I agree. Just bad optics. I think he should’ve known that. But, as you say, it’s really easy to play quarterback after the game is over. Good comment.

  2. Rory O'Callaghan

    It’s hard to tell if the technique used here is the same as that used with Floyd. Is it to the neck, or back? It’s much easier to draw a instinctive, bias-reinforcing conclusion than to establish the details.

  3. CCD

    Be sure to thank Rory and Chad for their comments supporting law enforcement if that is what they call killing somebody!! They certainly will NOT inherit the Earth!

    • Rory O'Callaghan

      Darn. Judged

      • Father George David Byers

        Probably my fault. I’ve been having very nuanced discussions with lots of law enforcement that others aren’t privy to. But I will write on this.

  4. meshugunah

    Anatomy lessons needed, methinks… Far easier to cause permanent injury, deathly harm, to neck vertebrae than those further down the spine, better “padded” by muscle, etc. Very easy to lose one’s control in the heat of battle – anger makes people do stupid, stupid things. Is this not a big part of why most police forces pair rookies with experienced officers? Military units do much the same? Prayers offered for ALL concerned, have been since Mr Floyd was killed.

  5. I have no training in apprehending or taking into custody anyone. I have never been asked to do that, and I don’t think anyone would ever request that from me. Since I don’t know anything about this subject, I will refrain from commenting on it. No, I won’t listen to folks who don’t know what they are talking about. Yes, I will listen to those with the proper scholarship and training. I might even ask a question or two.

  6. https://m.startribune.com/meth-crisis-roaring-back-how-cartels-infiltrated-meth-s-lethal-path-to-state/480680891/
    Here is a link to an interesting article. Minnesota has a meth problem, and Mr Floyd’s toxicology reported both fentanyl and methamphetamine. Research indicates meth is often cut with cheap Chinese fentanyl. Mr Floyd also was COVID-19 positive. No moral judgement on the man as the drugs are highly addictive. They are also lethal. But it’s the cops fault for responding to a call, because the people want to blame it on racism? Really?

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